Summer Gravity Camps partners with Acrobag by summergravitycamps

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hoolydooly (Jun 20, 2011 at 22:04)

Nice, but i feel sorry for the guys behind COC. they now have nothing over SGC.

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thegb1212 (Jun 21, 2011 at 15:26)

and SGC's is way bigger hahaha

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campofchampions (Jun 21, 2011 at 16:28)

You guys are right, we have nothing over SGC. COC has the smallest coach to camper groups with 1 coach for 3 riders, amazing bikes from 11 different manufacturers, ride along mechanics, and 3 hours more riding a day. SGC has us completely beat. Next year we will have bigger groups,less bikes and less riding so we can compete.
Ken

connor-rix (Jun 21, 2011 at 16:46)

Id still rather go to coc.

AdamLaycockPhoto (Jun 21, 2011 at 16:49)

CoC has Montgomery. Nuff said. lol. but CoC is the best camp in the world. Nothing will change that. Even some noobish attempt of copying CoC.

Andrew-Taylor (Jun 21, 2011 at 16:55)

CAMP OF THE CHAMPIONS! Nuff said.

connor-rix (Jun 21, 2011 at 16:58)

I am jelly that sgc has smith tho Frown

AdamLaycockPhoto (Jun 21, 2011 at 16:59)

Meh. Its one person. Im sure tippie could make you not jelly Wink

bighitryda88 (Jun 21, 2011 at 17:23)

SGC sucked when I did it a couple years ago, they were too lazy to take us to the river jumps even though we asked to go all week. Coaches didn't really do any coaching they just ride behind you, not really coaching if you ask me. If I could do it again I'd just rent a hotel room with some buds and ride whatever I want instead... Plus my photo from the professional photographer sucked shit

viccityburner (Jun 21, 2011 at 17:26)

haha SGC and COC are too similar to call. personally i would hit COC. A personal maintained compound beisde the airbag and really if i were to pay that much, I would want to ride as much as I could.

jdavidson (Jun 21, 2011 at 17:29)

i went to sgc and had a blast

E-Walk (Jun 21, 2011 at 18:35)

Its truly all Opinion, I have gone to SGC for a few years now and am going this summer, I love it best week of the year and I’ve meet alot of good guys there. I ride all day, and coaches are always down to go to jumps or pumptracks, the coaches always help me improve, groups were never large, in fact 2 days last year I had 2hours of individual coaching! Sterling Lorence is one of the best photographers in our sport and the fact is sometimes there is only so much you can do with a rider to make an amazing photo. Anyways I love SGC and the airbag is one more addition to help, without them I wouldn't be where I am today!

thewheelman (Jun 21, 2011 at 19:08)

COC is the first one listed on the main page under "Bike Camps", so its clearly the best....

Logically correct statement? No, but neither are some of the comments posted here. Its just an air bag. I would assume both camps have their many distinct competitive advantages, otherwise two camps could not financially exist in one town...

I'm at the age where if I attended either camp I'd likely be labeled some form of "old creepy dude" so I can't say for myself, but, some of you here are probably "well off", so if you've been to both camps why not start a discussion thread somewhere other than on an article mentioning a new air bag at SGC this summer.

P.S. Its nice outside, let's ride

DHr4life (Jun 21, 2011 at 19:15)

lol hoolydooly u just got owned aha

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diebel7 (Jun 21, 2011 at 19:24)

wow Ken from camp of champs seems like he feels a little intimidated hahah. At least SGC doesn't comment on posts from coc trying to divert attention to their camps... I guess it's because they have enough money from MORE campers going to their camp to advertise the real way...in Decline magazine, on here, etc. Just thought that post from CoC above was a little unprofessional. SGC has better coaches anyway. Who even cares though, just being in Whistler is f*cking sick!

AdamLaycockPhoto (Jun 21, 2011 at 19:27)

So travelling around north america with the airbag to try FOR FREE isn't good enough advertising for you? And then making videos of you while riding that airbag for free? And the post above was stating what makes CoC unique. There's nothing unprofessional about it. CoC has Mike. Nuff said.

diebel7 (Jun 21, 2011 at 21:12)

OOooo.. one good rider.. cool bro. And CoC should not get into who had what first.. SGC has been around for longer that Coc (the biking Coc at least..not sure about the snowboarding portion) so as far as im concerned one could argue that CoC copied SGC with the whole idea for a camp. I had no problem with COC before, and was actually choosing between them. But those comments completely swayed me towards SGC. And who cares if people are talking about the disadvantages that's the point of PB, so riders can discuss their opinions.

rippin-norco (Jun 21, 2011 at 21:27)

@ Ken, calm down. Personally, I really liked SGC when i went last year! But its just my opinion, who cares what the "Coach to rider ratio" is? Big deal, its all riding right? If we all love to ride, why argue over which camp is better? *cough*SGC*cough* Wink

ehh its all jokes.

hoolydooly (Jun 21, 2011 at 22:51)

Ill admit i have done no research towards COC at all. ever. only just went on their website then. i will admit it is pretty good. I like the bigger selection of bikes and the fact that they are sponsored by Xbox, not f*cking Nintendo Wii. the extra 3 hours of riding is good. but i think COC is more DJ based where as SGC is more gravity based.

Sorry ken, shouldn't have said that without any research into the camp. you have every right to defend your company that you have put hours upon hours of work into.

tysonb (Jun 21, 2011 at 23:17)

sgc camper ratio is fine, when i went we had 6 camper to 2 coaches and it was perfect i thought, you can choose to ride the same amount of time that coc does or go to the airdome which coc does not have the option of doing, coc basically only has the fact that they spend all their budget on building amazing demos bikes.....

tysonb (Jun 21, 2011 at 23:21)

p.s. i like how all of the shots in cocs videos are 98 percent pros where there will be the odd camper where sgc actually puts their campers in their videos....

travisfoxx (Jun 21, 2011 at 23:30)

i feel like no matter where you go your going to have fun. ITS WHISTLER. JUST BE HAPPY!

mvonhollen (Jun 22, 2011 at 8:25)

Tyson, they don't go to the airdome anymore because it's literally a waste of progression time compared to the compond.

diebel7 (Jun 22, 2011 at 17:20)

Would be sick if COC made a mixed snowboard and bike camp though.

campofchampions (Jun 22, 2011 at 23:28)

When you come to campp, if you want to snowboard or ski a few days instead of biking you can.
Ken

Bmx259 (Jun 25, 2011 at 13:29)

thats so sick ^ ! but sgc has semenuk id love to have him as a coach

AdamLaycockPhoto (Jun 25, 2011 at 15:35)

You don't want to be coached by Mike?

Bmx259 (Jun 25, 2011 at 17:04)

mikes a gnarly guy but since i started biking bsemes been my idol

DHr4life (Jun 25, 2011 at 20:08)

GUYS STOP COMPARING either camp IS AMAZING they HAhVE BOTH THEIR PROS AND CONS, either way bothh wil be extremely fun either way

E-Walk (Jun 26, 2011 at 21:16)

AdamLaycockPhoto seems to have a hard on for Mike Montgomery

AdamLaycockPhoto (Jun 26, 2011 at 22:00)

Im jealous of his 1080s and california rolls. Im sorry Frown

rippin-norco (Jun 26, 2011 at 22:02)

Yeah, imo, sgc is more downhill related, i like downhill more then jumps, sgc is the camp for me Smile

not bashing COC, COC would be amazing aswell!

brett236 (Jun 27, 2011 at 10:30)

people would be doing the same thing to sgc in a coc add but the diference is the sgc people wouldn't be putting down coc and trying to recruit in the comment section. ken i get that people are slamming your camp but just stop the commenting its making you look bad.

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dubkitch (Jun 21, 2011 at 17:01)

Either camp would be the best week of your life. Quit comparing and whining.

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campofchampions (Jun 21, 2011 at 18:00)

Absolutely correct.
Ken

CommentPolice (Jun 22, 2011 at 20:01)

Ken how old are you?

campofchampions (Jun 22, 2011 at 23:26)

46 or 18 depending on the day.HAHAHA
Ken

rippin-norco (Jun 26, 2011 at 22:03)

^ LOL. My dad saw that comment, and said, "Hey, thats me too!" Razz

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elliotdhmcgeary (Jun 21, 2011 at 22:00)

Well, coming from Australia where there's practically zero camps, either would be pretty amazing. Too many haters here. From my point of view from what i've seen from both, they're both seriously good stuff, and having competitors in the business can only mean moving forward and the camps getting better and better. Ken has every right to come and defend his own business against what seems dim-witted people who haven't experienced both.

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ryanreishripper (Jun 21, 2011 at 15:33)

ive heard that sgc is more gravity based than coc and that coc does more dj and stuff. ide still be greatful to go to either one but ide rather go to sgc.

drinkmilk54 (Jun 21, 2011 at 20:45)

CAMP of CHAMPIONS is amazing.

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blasianbike (Jun 22, 2011 at 2:21)

why do you guys care about who came up with "what" first. Its all about personal prefference, some people like SGC better than CoC and vice versa. Both allow you to meet cool people, meet and ride with pro riders, chill with friends, ride alot, and be in whistler, if you ask me thats a pretty good deal right there. So either one would be good Razz

and if you have the money to try out one of the camps or even both of the camps, you'll still be satisfied with both of the camps. Both will have something different for the better or worse but both will allow you to have fun which is all the matters.

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mvonhollen (Jun 22, 2011 at 8:31)

Guys, whether you go to SGC or COC, you're going to have the time of your life, so enjoy it.

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cjwanner (Jun 21, 2011 at 15:08)

If only there was some sort of other camp that offered air dome access and the usage of an air bag...

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albertadirtrider (Jun 21, 2011 at 16:58)

I absolutely love how Ken, owner of the competitor camp to SGC, has to come onto SGCs article and put them down and boost up his own camp. Great way to run a business bud.

AdamLaycockPhoto (Jun 21, 2011 at 17:08)

Well maybe if people werent bashing his camp he wouldnt have to.

campofchampions (Jun 21, 2011 at 17:59)

Exactly.
I have no problem with SGC but when my camp is dissed, I will stand up for it.
Ken

albertadirtrider (Jun 21, 2011 at 18:52)

No where in their article did SGC once attack your camp. It seems like all you did was used a few, and some what biased comments as an excuse to go on an all out attack against SGC, and boost up your own camp. Im suprised to this level of immaturity coming from an individual such as yourself.

AdamLaycockPhoto (Jun 21, 2011 at 19:01)

Wow you're really non-observant... read all the comments. "SGC is way better now". "SGC one upped CoC".

Obviously he's going to respond. His camp is what he believes in.

dbxrace (Jun 25, 2011 at 7:30)

i love the way SGC are trying to one up COC by copying them, not really going to work haha.

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commanderagl (Jun 25, 2011 at 17:35)

arguably one of the few places that you can see founders of preeminent companies/camps wage a flame war against each other, could you guys try and debate/sell (fact, rebuttal, rerebuttal) rather than argue (me, no me, i'm the best)?

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cnote357 (Jun 21, 2011 at 18:34)

I've hit both styles of bags and I will tell you the Big Air Bag that COC has is so much better than the bag SGC has. For starters the AcroBag is single chamber so if the pressure is wrong in the bag you could have a bad day/ to hard hit your face/too soft hit the ground...the BAB is dual chamber so you can never hit the ground and the top layer is always pillowy soft...the BAB is so easy to get out of with it's dome shape AB you have to climb you way out the side, plus I hit the COC bag for free in Victoria and it was sick...never seen SGC drive a bag around so you can hit it without going to their camp.

jdavidson (Jun 21, 2011 at 22:31)

ya but is coc's airbag red?
i don'T F'INg thINK SO

jk coc was chill when they came to js

cmacdougall (Jun 22, 2011 at 13:02)

SGC just partnered with Acrobag this year, Marc-Andre Tarte the owner of acro-bag has done numerous days where he set up the bag for people to jump into (the photo of Gully jumping into it was open to a large group of riders).

AcroBag (Jun 22, 2011 at 17:29)

AcroBag has two chambers and a superior Air-Release. Brandon Semenuk says it all!
Let's stick to the positive @cnote357. I could also write things like: BAB is more of a ziplock type bag that can bounce its participants if over-inflated, you can hit through to the ground if you land near the narrow domed sides.

But both AirBags have a lot to offer in terms of progression. They offer an amazing opportunity. Again its a question of preference. The main thing is to progress your tricks to the real thing. Whatever it takes!

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campofchampions (Jun 21, 2011 at 16:22)

Acrobag did not start the Air Bag Movement. We had our first bag in 2008 with BagJump. Marc work for BagJump in 2009, then knocked it off and started Acrobag. Congrats on getting an Air Bag. Great idea. They are the best thing ever for learning.
Ken

sexley (Jun 21, 2011 at 16:55)

For someone that has never hit either what is the benefit of an airbag over a foam pit for learning?

Andrew-Taylor (Jun 21, 2011 at 17:03)

Easier and faster to get out of, it's portable, no gross sweaty foam, etc.

mvonhollen (Jun 22, 2011 at 8:28)

Way less wait time in line cause you arent waiting for people trying to dig themselves and their bikes out of the foam.

AcroBag (Jun 22, 2011 at 17:18)

@campofchampions: Ken, please keep your incorrect and derogatory comments to a minimum. In other words, please stick to the facts. I partnered up with the previous AirBag company you mention and sold their first AirBag in the world. A year later, we divorced, I then moved onto better things, AcroBag. Stay positive! Stay true, be you!

@sexley, there is also the advantage that you can roll out of your tricks instead of coming to an unchallenging foam pit stop.

Marc

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downhillbmxican (Jun 21, 2011 at 17:09)

both look awesome, but personally i would go to SGC simply because my pe teacher is the general manager Pimp

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JamisJammer95 (Jun 21, 2011 at 16:15)

I'm going to SGC this summer!!! I can't wait to see all of my favorite riders!!!

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MathiasWensveen (Jun 20, 2011 at 17:50)

Really excited to try it out this summer!

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GRandolph (Jun 26, 2011 at 12:43)

I like how Ken is on here talking to us, personal is good especially when it comes to learning how to ride. Unless I missed a comment from SGC somewhere. My bro and I are stoked for COC next month Smile

brett236 (Jun 27, 2011 at 10:25)

If your into Dh more go to sgc. coc is more dirt jump oriented. and ken isn't talking he is trying to put down sgc

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dude386 (Jun 21, 2011 at 15:18)

This makes me even more stocked for camp this year!

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Cmontjumper (Jun 20, 2011 at 15:49)

taking COCs good idea! i onder if SGC will still have the foam pit?

BIGMITCH1 (Jun 20, 2011 at 16:02)

SGC has the airdome ( with a foam pit)

mvonhollen (Jun 21, 2011 at 14:18)

No duh dude. He's wondering if theyre only going to have airbag access instead of going to the airdome.

slofr66 (Jun 21, 2011 at 14:25)

it says right in the article that they are still going to the airdome everyday

Cmontjumper (Jun 21, 2011 at 15:57)

it didnt when the first draft was put out. thats why i asked

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simonsilver (Jun 21, 2011 at 17:10)

Coc seem's to be where it's at as far as camp goes, but this airbag seems to be much better.

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trekiscool (Jun 22, 2011 at 10:43)

Just got me a little more stoked to go if possible! Week 2!!!!!

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Matt-W (Jun 21, 2011 at 17:14)

Article is incorrect. Indem had specialist bike airbags at chatel for the mountain cycle demo in 2006.

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koan-rider (Jun 21, 2011 at 21:45)

COC has more then one rider almost every instructer has made podium in the FMB tour this year mike casey AT wyper then theres more time with the ones killin it ! SGC looks clueless now that they got a air bag it shows that there worried about COC blowing them out of the water and SGC is expensive for less days and not as nice bikes YAY Ripoffs ftw ? no COC is way to sick

brett236 (Jun 27, 2011 at 10:26)

How does getting an airbag for their campers them worying about getting blown out of the water? they want their campers to have a good time to

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TLDlover04 (Jun 22, 2011 at 22:21)

SGC WEEK 3 cant wait btw we have mccaul bros and zink and semenuk i would pick sgc over coc anyday

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TMC-Tomas (Jun 22, 2011 at 12:07)

pretty much what other people said, COC copy, i really liked the whole concept of SGC, but when i read what COC offered i prefered it over SCG instantly, 3 more hours than other camps, 1:3 coach to camper ratio..cant realy compeat with that..

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fraserbritton (Jun 23, 2011 at 13:51)

Dude. COC has the COC Bag. 'Nuff said! Wink

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dude386 (Jun 21, 2011 at 15:39)

Stoked*

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OliScale (Jun 21, 2011 at 15:22)

"The Founder of Acrobag started the Airbag movement"

they are talking about it as if they are starting a revolution haha

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pennel69 (Jun 20, 2011 at 13:05)

stepping it up!

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Brett13 (Jun 22, 2011 at 19:48)

SGC Week 1!!!!!

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ShastaOutdoorMedia (Jun 21, 2011 at 15:10)

Haha, COC tries to be as good as SGC but they epically fail because SGC ALWAYS one-ups them. Plus, I wouldn't want to go to a camp with a hamster-thing mascot!

campofchampions (Jun 21, 2011 at 16:30)

Actually we don't try to be as good as SGC. We try to be better. Good idea... an air bag. I wish we had thought of that. It would be really cool. We just got so one upped. Damn!
Ken

connor-rix (Jun 21, 2011 at 16:48)

It's called a marmot gawd

AdamLaycockPhoto (Jun 21, 2011 at 16:51)

Yeah. And SGC totally takes their airbags to big events for people to try for free. right?

ShastaOutdoorMedia (Jun 21, 2011 at 17:03)

Yeah. SGC doesn't do as much of the in-your-face, check-this-out, this-is-so-kool marketing as COC. IMHO, COC is playing catchup a lot of the time and the constant back-and-forth over who gets who's money is ridiculous. Instead of each camp trying to outcool each other they should each actually do different things so that the choice between them is objectifiable.

AdamLaycockPhoto (Jun 21, 2011 at 17:04)

So you dont want people to know about your camp? Or upload videos to see what you look like?

ShastaOutdoorMedia (Jun 21, 2011 at 20:52)

"Look we have a camp!" "Look we have one now too!" "Look we have lots of famous coaches!" "Look, so do we!" "Look at our cool gear!" "No, look at ours!" "We have an airbag!" "So do we!"

It's as ridic as this post.

AdamLaycockPhoto (Jun 21, 2011 at 20:57)

Its nothing like this... Ken's just stating that he has those things since people are bashing his camp for SGC. He's defending for what he believes in (considering he's had it running for what. 20 years now?)

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